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gingrich did it with wrong king of cnn and our own juan williams during the republican primaries. our senior political analyst brit hume has been in this position. here is his take on the job difficulties. >> you are at the center of attention but you don't want to be. you want the candidate to be the story, you want to facilitate that. you have to be firm enough and sharpen your questioning enough so it makes for an interesting debate and be careful not to cross the line to where it looks like you are favoring one candidate over another. >>jonathan: he says he things it is unlikely the candidates themselves will attack the moderator tonight because he says while that may happen in a primary contest it is far less likely to happen with these candidates trying to look presidential tonight. >>shepard: there is criticism over a lack of racial diversity. >>jonathan: just divertity in general. you look at the moderators of the presidential debate, candy, in the middle, from cnn, is the first woman moderator of a presidential debate for something like 20 years. juan williams says there
gingrich did it with wrong king of cnn and our own juan williams during the republican primaries. our senior political analyst brit hume has been in this position. here is his take on the job difficulties. >> you are at the center of attention but you don't want to be. you want the candidate to be the story, you want to facilitate that. you have to be firm enough and sharpen your questioning enough so it makes for an interesting debate and be careful not to cross the line to where it...
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and he in fact ended up losing that primary to newt gingrich. you just can't do that in debates. they were stumbles he doesn't normally have. and i would expect him to have corrected those. >> and then it is not just the words, but it is the body language. and you have written in your op-ed piece that romney sometimes has an -- if you watch, he has a bit of an awkward smile when his opponent is talking, right? >> he does. you have to remember the camera is on you even if you're not speaking. if they're saying ugly things about you, yoube smiling. it is an awkward smirk. >> you have the president, here is an example, we have an example of him raising his hands, pointing his finger, while his opponent answered a question, wait for it, and you'll see, the president do this, good or bad move? >> i don't think it is a particularly good move. i've always been told to kind of, you know, keep that finger down. you don't know what's going to happen once you start pointing to somebody. it could go off. i think you keep the finger pointing away. >> bottom line, who wins? >> i think it will
and he in fact ended up losing that primary to newt gingrich. you just can't do that in debates. they were stumbles he doesn't normally have. and i would expect him to have corrected those. >> and then it is not just the words, but it is the body language. and you have written in your op-ed piece that romney sometimes has an -- if you watch, he has a bit of an awkward smile when his opponent is talking, right? >> he does. you have to remember the camera is on you even if you're not...
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>> even newt gingrich said this is not a story. >> who cares what newt gingrich says. megyn: thank you both so much. we are taking your thoughts on it. what do you think? is this a story and do it enlighten you about president obama? let me know. remember the prostitution scandal that rocked the secret service, allegations of agents misbehaving in colombia. there was no ban in place before. wait, yes, there was. details next. vice president biden finding himself in the middle of a firefight between both sides of the aisle after saying the middle class has been buried the last four years while he was in power. we'll take a look at his latest comment and debate whether this is as big a deal as some are suggesting. >> how they can justify raising tax on the middle class that's been buried the last four years. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything
>> even newt gingrich said this is not a story. >> who cares what newt gingrich says. megyn: thank you both so much. we are taking your thoughts on it. what do you think? is this a story and do it enlighten you about president obama? let me know. remember the prostitution scandal that rocked the secret service, allegations of agents misbehaving in colombia. there was no ban in place before. wait, yes, there was. details next. vice president biden finding himself in the middle of a...
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if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the same thing on stage face-to-face that they'll say in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> dana bash is joining us life. dana, that was really fascinating. interesting that you spoke to the republican strategist brad o'donnell, one of romney's primary debate here. he spent a lot of time with him during the primaries. how much does the romney think that those 20 or so debates in the primaries is going to help him win tonight? >> well, of course, any debate that any candidate has they think will help, but, you know, this is a very, very different ballgame. first of all, mitt romney was standing next to about half a dozen people at any given moment. this is mano-y-mano with the president of the united states. also, the tens of millions of viewers will be watching. it is a very diff
if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the same thing on stage face-to-face that they'll say in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> dana bash is joining us life. dana, that was really fascinating. interesting that you...
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and you have to have 10% of the vote, gingrich is made to go out and vote -- so it convinces me to go out and vote. guest: the next cover story will deal with precisely this subject. the libertarian party is working to get permanently on balance. these are perfectly good reasons to vote expressively. unfortunately, it will not determine the outcome of the election that is dominated by two parties. newell also not get the libertarian vote on the ballot -- you will also not get the libertarian vote on the ballot in your state. even when we are talking about third parties, smaller scale elections, the numbers are still pretty big. again, though, very happy for anybody who enjoys wearing their "i voted" sticker. and anyone likes to vote for the libertarian guy, by all means, but understand you are not influencing who gets on the ballot. catherine mangu-ward is the managing editor of reason magazine. if you encourage people not to vote, do you risk having the candidates that you prefer losing the election be on the ballot? are you responsible, basically, for a loss for your party? guest: t
and you have to have 10% of the vote, gingrich is made to go out and vote -- so it convinces me to go out and vote. guest: the next cover story will deal with precisely this subject. the libertarian party is working to get permanently on balance. these are perfectly good reasons to vote expressively. unfortunately, it will not determine the outcome of the election that is dominated by two parties. newell also not get the libertarian vote on the ballot -- you will also not get the libertarian...
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if you reme debates with newt gingrich, speaker gingr chs migration policy. he was reallyoing after him about deporting grandmoer he areat response. we can't deport 11 milli grandmothers. there aren't 11illion grandmotrs that wre poing. so he can. can rort. whathe governo has goto do it's not about parrying, it's about going on offense. it's aut starting the debate on offense d finishing the debate on offee. >>ill: remember, though, because i' debated bak twice, i mean, he's not jimmy caer. agan was theem tate who destyed cart. obama is muc quicy a confrontaonal man, am i correct on thathe's not me. he not looking r the fight. heoesn't rish the debate. >> that's wh hapnedhe first obably 15 primary detes. he stayed t ou t fray and just sort ofave histhat's right. an let every ese beat each othe up. bil but this time he has to prove himself to the american pe which president obama doesn't have to pove hielf. he's aknown quantity. you like him, you n't. it's the pple in the middl you're after. mitt romney still has to pre in the debate is on the governor or am i
if you reme debates with newt gingrich, speaker gingr chs migration policy. he was reallyoing after him about deporting grandmoer he areat response. we can't deport 11 milli grandmothers. there aren't 11illion grandmotrs that wre poing. so he can. can rort. whathe governo has goto do it's not about parrying, it's about going on offense. it's aut starting the debate on offense d finishing the debate on offee. >>ill: remember, though, because i' debated bak twice, i mean, he's not jimmy...
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if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you one of the common map you say you're a part of? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is important. but then being comfortable enough in your own skin and comfortable with the topic that you can come up with a pious baloney moment. those aren't planned, they aren't scripted, it just happens when it happens. >> but, professor schroeder, we've heard reports that the romney campaign has been preparing some so-called zingers that mitt romney's practiced and can use. i don't know why they would leak that kind of information, because it's like setting you up to fail if it doesn't work out. but how important are little lines like that, do you think? in the history of debates? >> i think they
if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you one of the common map you say you're a part of? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is...
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if you remember the debates with newt gingrich, speaker gingrich was challenging him on his immigration policy. he was really going after him about deporting grandmothers and he thought on his feet and came back with a great response. we can't deport 11 million grandmothers. there aren't 11 million grandmothers that we're deporting. so he can. he can retort. what the governor has got to do, it's not about parrying, it's about going on offense. it's about starting the debate on offense and finishing the debate on offense. >> bill: remember, though, because i've debated barak obama twice, i mean, he's not jimmy carter. reagan was the template who destroyed carter. but obama is much quicker than jimmy carter was. now, i don't think mitt romney is a confrontational man, am i correct on that assessment? he's not me. he's not looking for the fight. he doesn't relish the debate. >> that's what happened the first probably 15 primary debates. he stayed out of the fray and just sort of gave his mental. that's right. and let everybody else beat each other up. >> bill: but this time he has to prove
if you remember the debates with newt gingrich, speaker gingrich was challenging him on his immigration policy. he was really going after him about deporting grandmothers and he thought on his feet and came back with a great response. we can't deport 11 million grandmothers. there aren't 11 million grandmothers that we're deporting. so he can. he can retort. what the governor has got to do, it's not about parrying, it's about going on offense. it's about starting the debate on offense and...
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newt gingrich was claiming that for four consecutive years as speaker he balanced the budget. well, he'd only been speaker for two of the years that his budget was balanced. he backed of that claim. debates have the ability to push back on claims that are deceptive and increase the level of accuracy. >> almost you persuade me. but as you know, there's so much talk about how we're in a time of post-truth politics. one of mitt romney's own campaign pollsters said that they're not going to let their campaign be dictated by fact checkers and although he didn't include, call you by name. he includes you, miss jamieson, and your colleagues at factcheck.org. >> and the romney campaign, when it posts the big deceptions of the obama campaign, cites the fact checkers in many of those. and importantly, we know something about fact checking actually mattering. so first we know that campaigns have adjusted their claims. the obama campaign was saying that romney had outsourced. >>> i am barack obama and i approve this message. >> running for governor, mitt romney campaigned as a job creator
newt gingrich was claiming that for four consecutive years as speaker he balanced the budget. well, he'd only been speaker for two of the years that his budget was balanced. he backed of that claim. debates have the ability to push back on claims that are deceptive and increase the level of accuracy. >> almost you persuade me. but as you know, there's so much talk about how we're in a time of post-truth politics. one of mitt romney's own campaign pollsters said that they're not going to...
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particularly as they hear such things as newt gingrich's primary season talk of the food stamp president. >> we think unconditional efforts by the best food stamp president in american history to maximize dependence is terrible for the future of this country. >> to me it means black, hispanic and poor and that we're lazy. so, when i heard them saying that about president obama, i take that very seriously because they're just all negative. he is not the food stamp king. he is helpingle regardl people need h national urban league issued a study saying that if black voting patterns revert to 2004 levels, the president will lose north carolina. and the obama campaign taking that threat seriously is paying particular attention to historically black colleges like north carolina's central university. michelle obama spoke there last month. >> and if barack wins north carolina, we'll be well on our way to putting barack back in the white house for four more years. >> brown: on saturday the campaign set up a tent amid the pregame drilling at the viking football classic between elizabeth city state
particularly as they hear such things as newt gingrich's primary season talk of the food stamp president. >> we think unconditional efforts by the best food stamp president in american history to maximize dependence is terrible for the future of this country. >> to me it means black, hispanic and poor and that we're lazy. so, when i heard them saying that about president obama, i take that very seriously because they're just all negative. he is not the food stamp king. he is...
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and that really put gingrich in his place. and that's happened throughout the primary debates when pawlenty wouldn't repeat the romney care charge. if the account candidate is not willing to say something face-to-face as they do in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> the other thing he said which i think is true and i would bet you'd agree is that both mitt romney and president obama tend to have the same strengths and weaknesses. the weakness he's concerned about and was in the primary ss that he tends to get defensive. he really needs to control that. i know from sources talking to mitt romney in these mock debates that's definitely one thing they've been practicing big time. >> that was certainly a key moment in the end of newt gingrich's efforts to become the republican presidential nominee. >> sure was. >> mitt romney really gave it to him at that point. we'll have much more on this coming up in our next hour. dana, thanks very much. >>> in our next hour we're g
and that really put gingrich in his place. and that's happened throughout the primary debates when pawlenty wouldn't repeat the romney care charge. if the account candidate is not willing to say something face-to-face as they do in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> the other thing he said which i think is true and i would bet you'd agree is that both mitt romney and president obama tend to have the same strengths and...
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if they lose -- >> they want newt gingrich in the primaries? is that what they want, the base or whoever you talk about, they want newt gingrich snapping at the media and kind of performing before the stage, given the theatrics you referenced? >> it's a split personality thing. mitt romney as i've been writing for months is a flawed candidate who won in a weak field. look who came in second. rick santorum. newt gingrich came in third, ron paul came in fourth. as i wrote that, that's not a field. that's a therapy group. of that group, you know, mitt romney was the most, is the most electable of that group. the process worked. i don't think the republican party can really blame anybody or even themselves for nominating the wrong guy. the trouble is the guy who is the best of the field lacks the common touch that wealthy, privileged people need. franklin roosevelt, privileged, wealthy, had the common touch. john f. kennedy had the common touch. ted kennedy and bobby kennedy did. nelson rockefeller did in new york. mitt romney does not convey that.
if they lose -- >> they want newt gingrich in the primaries? is that what they want, the base or whoever you talk about, they want newt gingrich snapping at the media and kind of performing before the stage, given the theatrics you referenced? >> it's a split personality thing. mitt romney as i've been writing for months is a flawed candidate who won in a weak field. look who came in second. rick santorum. newt gingrich came in third, ron paul came in fourth. as i wrote that, that's...
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it was a clear takedown he had of newt gingrich during that debate. and mitt romney has shown, his back is against the wall, he can perform well in the debates. he did that in california with rick perry, did that on a number of occasions with rick perry and was able to put the challengers aside. and, you know if you saw the latest cnn orc poll that came out yesterday showing that the president is just now three points ahead of mitt romney, this race is getting tighter, and i think that falls into what the romney campaign considers to be its playbook at this point, keep it close, keep it tight, get through the debates, and look once again to the economy as the determining factor in this election. >> you know, jim, we heard from kevin madden, the romney campaign adviser on getting romney ready for this debate tomorrow, here's what he said. >> just trying to get the governor familiar with the head to head one on one format has been a focus because in all the previous debates that we have had, it has been, you know, nine people on stage, trying to -- tryi
it was a clear takedown he had of newt gingrich during that debate. and mitt romney has shown, his back is against the wall, he can perform well in the debates. he did that in california with rick perry, did that on a number of occasions with rick perry and was able to put the challengers aside. and, you know if you saw the latest cnn orc poll that came out yesterday showing that the president is just now three points ahead of mitt romney, this race is getting tighter, and i think that falls...
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i saw him do best, probably his two best debates, suzanne were the florida debates with when newt gingrich had beat him lining a pulp in the south carolina debates a few weeks before. so i think that could actually be an advantage for mitt romney. he seems to be good under pressure. but, you know, listen, both these guys have a lot of strengths and some weaknesses. the question is -- >> let's talk specific. >> the nastiness is time out for that. we know the base of both political parties are very enthusiastic. this is about appealing to those undecided moderates and independents and nasty is not cool. >> let's talk about -- let's talk about appealing to latino voters. there's a new poll out today. back in 2008 mccain had 31% of latino vote. that was not as good as george w. bush in 2004 he had 44% of latino vote. romney need at least a quarter to a third of latino vote toeshs competitive in states like colorado where the debate is and that kind of thing. real quickly because i want to get to donna on this issue. what does he need to do to appeal to latino voters? >> i think latino voters n
i saw him do best, probably his two best debates, suzanne were the florida debates with when newt gingrich had beat him lining a pulp in the south carolina debates a few weeks before. so i think that could actually be an advantage for mitt romney. he seems to be good under pressure. but, you know, listen, both these guys have a lot of strengths and some weaknesses. the question is -- >> let's talk specific. >> the nastiness is time out for that. we know the base of both political...
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. >> coming up, some republicans particularly newt gingrich like to call barack obama the food stamp president. wonder if they would characterize jpmorgan as the food stamp bank. turns out the company is making millions on the so-called welfare state. we will explain next in what now. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. joom back. time for what now. when you think of food stamps you don't think of jpmorgan chase, but according to the daily beast the banking giant has been making a fortune off our welfare system thanks to a law that require all states to switch from food stamps to debit cards. a contract totaled over $126 million for jp morgan in new york city. >> jpmorgan the welfare queen. next time one of the candidates do racism about entitlements point them to this story. >> the zirng of the day, jonathan capehart. >> that's what i was going to say. >> ditto. >> t
. >> coming up, some republicans particularly newt gingrich like to call barack obama the food stamp president. wonder if they would characterize jpmorgan as the food stamp bank. turns out the company is making millions on the so-called welfare state. we will explain next in what now. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's...
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you know, what brad that was the night, remember that night, that really ended gingrich's run and it cleared the way for romney's victoria tree. does governor romney tomorrow night need to pull off similar drama? >> i think he's got to be forceful, direct, yet respectful to the president. i happen to believe substance triumphs style every time. we saw the president recently get rattled when a univision presenter questioned the president respectfully but directly on immigration. the president was clearly annoyed. and i think romney to be effective must go on offense. it's not enough to say how bad things are in america because if it wasn't for bad news the president won't be making news on the economy or anything else. we all know how bad things are. romp knee has to tell how good things can be under his direction an has to be specific on policy. gregg: santita in the rare moment when the president actually holds a news conference and we have video of one of his news conferences he's forced to defend himself with vigorous questions from the reporters, and he sometimes really bristles
you know, what brad that was the night, remember that night, that really ended gingrich's run and it cleared the way for romney's victoria tree. does governor romney tomorrow night need to pull off similar drama? >> i think he's got to be forceful, direct, yet respectful to the president. i happen to believe substance triumphs style every time. we saw the president recently get rattled when a univision presenter questioned the president respectfully but directly on immigration. the...
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newt gingrich and rick santorum almost certainly were not at stake in the race as long as they did after losing several contests in each case with out a million air or four backing them with checks as high as $5 million. as a result, the republican primary was much more prolonged than it would have been. romney and his friends have to spend much more money than they expected defending him in those early months. the whole dynamic of what we are used to wear we have a nominee, we are up in it for a few weeks. since then, the super pak sets and in a huge wave is sumner. when romney wins, he does not have the money he needs to compete with obama. he relied heavily on super pacs to do is advertising. this is not technically coordinated advertising. trevor can get into the realities there. it had some obvious positive affect inholding parity with the president as he issued a blistering attack against romney this summer. it has shown to have clear weaknesses. both campaigns will tell you this. the super pac did not follow a simple narrative might be obama advertising did. the obama campaign bui
newt gingrich and rick santorum almost certainly were not at stake in the race as long as they did after losing several contests in each case with out a million air or four backing them with checks as high as $5 million. as a result, the republican primary was much more prolonged than it would have been. romney and his friends have to spend much more money than they expected defending him in those early months. the whole dynamic of what we are used to wear we have a nominee, we are up in it for...
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like these against gingrich. >> i spent 25 years in business. if i had a business executive saying they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, i'd say you're fired. did you check your own investments? you also have investments in fannie mae and freddie mac. >> and romney is at his worst when forced to respond to a rebuttal when he's interrupted or when he feels rules have been violated. he saw it in the 2002 debates against shannon o'brien, in 1994 against kennedy and of course, in these primaries. >> mr. romney, the kennedys are not in public service to make money. we have paid too high a price in our commitment to the public service. >> senator kennedy, your question for mr. romney. >> mr. romney -- >> i'm sorry. was it my turn to respond. >> i was going to end it there. >> my suggestion about my comments in utah. let me complete it and you can ask me. >> do you have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking and i suggest if you want to become president of the united states, you have to let both peo
like these against gingrich. >> i spent 25 years in business. if i had a business executive saying they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, i'd say you're fired. did you check your own investments? you also have investments in fannie mae and freddie mac. >> and romney is at his worst when forced to respond to a rebuttal when he's interrupted or when he feels rules have been violated. he saw it in the 2002 debates against shannon o'brien, in...
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seeing governor romney tack so far to the right against gingrich and santorum to get the nomination, to steam roll them and when eric fehrnstrom made the etch-a-sketch comment on cnn, he was widely mocked. that's why we saw mitt romney stay to the right longer than expected because he didn't want to be seen as an etch-a-sketch. but now that we're out of the convention time, mitt's pretty much doing anything he can to appeal to as many voters as possible. does he run the risk of alienating the base even more? >> i think he does. and i think one of the things that we've seen is people haven't gotten excited about him. still. you know. and i think where that causes a problem for him is not so much that republicans aren't going to support him because i think they are and i think the polls reflect that he does get the republicans. but he's not given the freedom to run his own campaign because you still have kind of the conservative contary pounding him again and again and again every time you have a misstep. and i think that boxes him in quite a bit. and i think that probably was one of t
seeing governor romney tack so far to the right against gingrich and santorum to get the nomination, to steam roll them and when eric fehrnstrom made the etch-a-sketch comment on cnn, he was widely mocked. that's why we saw mitt romney stay to the right longer than expected because he didn't want to be seen as an etch-a-sketch. but now that we're out of the convention time, mitt's pretty much doing anything he can to appeal to as many voters as possible. does he run the risk of alienating the...
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look too laid back and might let romney, who can be ferocious in these things, as we saw in the newt gingrich debate. but there's so much damage to undo about himself for romney before he gets to obama. the 47% comment and the whole image of somebody who doesn't care about the middle class and only the rich. he has to use the debate to repair that and only then can he pivot to obama, which is why he needs a long strategy. >> the last point is right. it's a difficult match between the venue, the medium in that debate and what he needs to accomplish, which is about seeming like a guy who cares about the middle class. there's ways to do that in ads and staging and all sorts of other things. hard when you're standing next to the president. but that's the distance he needs to to go. e.j.dionne, great to have you here. >> nice to see you. >>> it's political debate season to be sure. massachusetts senator scott brown and elizabeth warren just completed their second televised debate. you might recall the first one. let's see if senator brown's, but she doesn't look native american card is the only on
look too laid back and might let romney, who can be ferocious in these things, as we saw in the newt gingrich debate. but there's so much damage to undo about himself for romney before he gets to obama. the 47% comment and the whole image of somebody who doesn't care about the middle class and only the rich. he has to use the debate to repair that and only then can he pivot to obama, which is why he needs a long strategy. >> the last point is right. it's a difficult match between the...
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sick and newt gingrich in 1997, and eat a balanced budget. it got the job done. the balanced the budget. we were paying off debt. the unemployment rate was going down. other than that it did not work. i did not like the welfare bill, because it did not provide the kind of child care support that we needed to provide, and became in in 1997 and did it. i did not require -- i did not oppose people of the kind to have to work. i do not disagree with that position at all. to say that i have opposed spending cuts is inaccurate. i was governor in 1983 when we were in recession. week lowered the tax on food as a consequence of a significant effort by the legislature. it was every interest group in the state that lined up. spend more money here, there. we held the line. in this campaign, i have endorsed republican proposals to cut spending, by conservative senator from oklahoma tom coburn. us on the way to do it. >> you have 30 seconds. >> this piece of legislation was a signature achievement of president clinton. it was a vote against cutting spending. he did not cut spe
sick and newt gingrich in 1997, and eat a balanced budget. it got the job done. the balanced the budget. we were paying off debt. the unemployment rate was going down. other than that it did not work. i did not like the welfare bill, because it did not provide the kind of child care support that we needed to provide, and became in in 1997 and did it. i did not require -- i did not oppose people of the kind to have to work. i do not disagree with that position at all. to say that i have opposed...